WMI Holdings ! Gibt es eine Alternative ?

Eugene Davis... on BOD (CMPK & WMIH)


https://www.facebook.com/...gm.787032434683408&type=1&theater  

Wenn man so etwas:
http://www.ariva.de/forum/Der-ESCROW-Thread-494496#jumppos960

Versucht. ;-) . Ach ja nur zur Info der receiver ist die FDIC. Und es bedeutet einfach nur, dass JPM claims vorrangig sind.

Vielleicht kann ja Union helfen.

Jetzt muss auch noch die amerikanische Verfassung her? Natürlich wie immer ohne Erläuterung. ID wenn du nicht so einen Blödsinn abgezogen hättest, würde ich dich vielleicht sogar lustig finden.  

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Das mit Capmark hatten wir doch schon.

http://www.ariva.de/forum/...e-Alternative-510408?page=42#jumppos1057

 

Wäre schön. Allerdings kann das ja eigentlich noch nicht sein, da die "drei Jahresfrist" noch nicht verstrichen ist... ;-)

Spaß beiseite: Ich denke, da müsste ein größeres Volumen her. Aber Zeit wird es, die WMIH-Shares haben im Depot schon leichten Schimmel angesetzt... ;-)  

WAMU entities no longer listed in JPM Subsidiaries Exhibit 21

https://www.boardpost.net/forum/index.php?topic=6974.msg92546#msg92546

Zitatdoo_dilettante:
Hot off the latest JPM annual filings. Looks like all WAMU subsidiaries disappeared or are all consolidated!!!

http://www.secinfo.com/dJ5e.m8v.b.htm

Exhibit 21
JPMorgan Chase & Co.

List of subsidiaries
While there are a number of subsidiaries that are required to be reported for various purposes to bank regulators, the following is a list of JPMorgan Chase & Co.?s significant legal entity subsidiaries as of December 31, 2014, as defined by SEC rules. The list includes the parent company of significant subsidiaries even if the parent company did not meet the definition of a significant subsidiary. Excluded from the list are subsidiaries that, if considered in the aggregate, would not constitute a significant subsidiary under SEC rules as of December 31, 2014.
Also included in the list are certain subsidiaries that have been designated as material legal entities for resolution planning purposes under the Dodd-Frank Act that did not meet the definition of a significant subsidiary under SEC rules.
December 31, 2014
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Or incomplete?!


December 31, 2014
Name
Organized Under
The Laws Of
JPMorgan Chase Bank, National Association
United States
Chase Paymentech Holdings, Inc.
United States
Chase Paymentech Solutions, LLC
United States
Paymentech, LLC
United States
JPMN Inc
United States
Chase Mortgage Holdings, Inc
United States
J.P. Morgan Treasury Technologies Corporation
United States
J.P. Morgan International Inc
United States
Bank One International Holding Corporation
United States
J.P.Morgan International Finance Limited
United States
J.P. Morgan Overseas Capital Corporation
United States
J.P. Morgan Whitefriars Inc.
United States
JPMorgan Holdings (Japan) LLC
United States
JPMorgan Securities Japan Co., Ltd.
Japan
J.P. Morgan AG
Germany
Dearborn Merchant Services, Inc.
Canada
Chase Paymentech Solutions
Canada
Paymentech Salem Services, LLC
United States
Chase Paymentech Europe Limited
Ireland
J.P. Morgan Capital Holdings Limited
United Kingdom
J.P.Morgan Chase (UK) Holdings Limited
United Kingdom
J.P. Morgan Limited
United Kingdom
J.P.Morgan Chase International Holdings
United Kingdom
J.P. Morgan Securities PLC
United Kingdom
J.P.Morgan Europe Limited
United Kingdom
J.P. Morgan International Bank Limited
United Kingdom
J.P. Morgan Broker-Dealer Holdings Inc.
United States
J.P.Morgan Securities LLC
United States
J.P. Morgan Clearing Corp.
United States
J.P.Morgan Equity Holdings, Inc
United States
CMC Holding Delaware, Inc
United States
Chase Bank USA, National Association
United States
Chase BankCard Services, Inc.
United States
Chase Issuance Trust
United States
Banc One Capital Holdings LLC
United States
BOCP Holdings Corporation
United States
J.P.Morgan Services Asia Holdings Inc
United States
J.P.Morgan Services Asia Holdings Limited
Mauritius
J.P.Morgan Services India Private Limited
India
JPMorgan Asset Management Holdings, Inc
United States
J.P.Morgan Investment Management, Inc
United States
JPMorgan Asset Management International Limited
United Kingdom
JPMorgan Asset Management Holdings (UK) Limited
United Kingdom
JPMorgan Asset Management (UK) Limited
United Kingdom
JPMorgan Asset Management Holdings (Luxembourg) S.à.r.l.
Luxembourg
JPMorgan Asset Management (Europe) S.à.r.l.
Luxembourg
JPMorgan Distribution Services, Inc.
United States
JPMorgan Funds Management, Inc.
United States
J.P. Morgan Ventures Energy Corporation
United States
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The subsidiaries reporting gets funnier every year:

Annual Report 2008 included the State and the percentage of shareholding.
Since the Annual Reports 2009 it included only the State where the entities were incorporated.

Now it only shows the country - that's what I call transparency.....
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Zitat azcowboy:
Doo,

Thank You ... just filed today' ... 2/24/2015 ~ ( On:  Tuesday, 2/24/15, at 4:04pm ET   ·   For:  12/31/14 )

I'll say it again; ... JPMorgan Chase Bank, National Association (N.A.) only received the "servicing rights" to the Washington Mutual Loan File' ~ ( JPM agrees' ) ...

just sayin'

AZ

Check out the R-203

Amount of residential mortgage loans,
private-label securitization by Washington Mutual ...
12/31/2008 = $165,000,000,000.00

Amount of  residential mortgage loans,
private-label securitization by Washington Mutual,
Repaid' ...
12/31/2014 = $78,000,000,000.00

Amount of  residential mortgage loans,
private-label securitization by Washington Mutual,
Liquidated ...
12/31/2014 = $49,000,000,000.00

Percent of residential mortgage loans originally
sold or deposited into private-label securitization by Washington Mutual,
Average Loss Severity ...
12/31/2014 = 59%  

Amount of residential mortgage loans,
private-label securitization by Washington Mutual,
Remaining ...
12/31/2014 = $38,000,000,000.00  ( yes, my friends, that's ~ 38 billion ~ )
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Zitat boarddork:
What do you think the name  "private-label securitization by Washington Mutual" means?    Possibly a tracking name from the FDIC Resolution Trust Corp (RTC) when they create their own MBS from portfolio mortgages taken in receivership, from the IDI (Insured Deposit Institution in receivership), and put into safe harbour?   Of course JPM servicing this for the FDIC for the time being.....

         "1)  the FDIC Resolution Trust Corp (RTC) or its affiliates has the authority to securitize pools of previously unsecuritized mortgages held in bank portfolios, taken in receiverships.
               History here: https://www.fdic.gov/ba /historical/managing/history1-16.pdf "
Also,  WMI Quarter Ending 6/30/2008, there was $222B in WMI mortgages held in portfolio.  (An additional $19B in prior sold MBS).  So if approx $222B - 165B = $57B remaining.................well hot dog dammit, $57B is the number owed to FHLB as a liability as of quarter end 6/30/2008.   The numbers link up, I think we're getting pretty damn close.....Now leverage $38B 10x's or more    


And this is just mortgages..........what else is returning?


That is an amazingly short and get ready to cover-your-a$$, overly simplified list, compared to all the years prior 10-k's I analyzed in my objections to the court.  Rosen="hiding the sausage"

Pretty easy to hand the 'sausage' back to 'somebody' without a paper trail.......you know, that thing where you pretend you bought the luxury car, but you were really just leasing.  Sure is almighty interesting coincidental where JPM is saying they can no longer keep $100B in 'banking deposits' from certain depositors.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-02-24/...needs?cmpid=yhoo
Like certain $78B in refinance proceeds, 6 years percentage share of servicing fees, interest, etc.
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Zitat Scott Fox:
Private Label. Some private institutions, such as subsidiaries of investment banks, financial institutions, and home builders, also issue mortgage securities. When issuing mortgage securities, they may issue either agency or non-agency mortgage passthrough securities; however, their underlying collateral will more often include different or specialized types of mortgage loans or mortgage loan pools that do not qualify for agency securities. The transactions may use alternative credit enhancements such as letters of credit. These non-agency or so-called private-label mortgage securities are the sole obligation of their issuer and are not guaranteed by one of the GSEs or the U.S. Government**. Private-label mortgage securities are assigned credit ratings by independent credit agencies based on their structure, issuer, collateral, and any guarantees or other factors. - See more at:
http://www.investinginbonds.com/...56&id=134#sthash.TbUz1YU3.dpuf
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Zitat boarddork:
private-label mortgage securities are the sole obligation of their issuer............so would the FDIC Resolution Trust Corp (RTC) use its securitization creation powers to create securities based on Washington Mutual issued mortgages?  Seems like a possibility to me.

What's also interesting about this definition, is when you read that "underlying collateral will more often include different or specialized types of mortgage loans or mortgage loan pools that do not qualify for agency securities".........this is the exact description of what a mortgage 'held in portfolio' contains in the definition I've posted mutiple times recently.....REMEMBER WMI's 6/30/2008 Quarter Ending reports $222 Billion in portfolio loans...........separate from an additional $19 Billion in MBS



Again,  What is 'Mortgages held in Portfolio'?
http://www.brokeroutpost.com/reference/28593.htm
rtfolio Loans

Portfolio loans are mortgages that are held as an investment by the lender. Usually they hold on to the loan because it doesn't fit the underwriting guidelines for investors on the secondary market.  (i.e. securitized, packaged and sold for secondary market)

There really is no advantage to having your mortgage held by a portfolio lender. The rates are usually the same the only difference is that the mortgage usually will not be sold off many times over the life of the loan.

Many times a portfolio lender will have programs or different guidelines that are not typical of loans that are sold on the secondary market which follow FNMA and FHLMC guidelines. Therefore you may be able to sometimes obtain a certain home loan program that you may not normally be able to obtain due to your certain situation, by going with a lender that offers a portfolio loan.

Portfolio loans are mortgage loans in which a lender will loan their own money and have minimal plans of selling the loan or transferring servicing to another bank or lender. Often times, portfolio loans will have something different to them that makes it unique to another bank such as the mortgage note being based on a different index.

Lenders that are portfolio lenders often have very conservative guidelines. This is because they plan on holding the loan for the long term.

Portfolio lenders are usually more flexible in their underwriting guidelines. When lenders hold and service their own loans, they have the ability to work outside the box and approve exceptions that typical lenders may not.

While portfolio lenders may be more flexible with their lending guidelines, they can be more conservative on things like: the types of properties they lend on, the Loan to Value (LTV) ratios, the appraisal and review. Since they intend to keep the loan, in the event they have to foreclose they want to make sure that the property will resell, quickly, and for at least what they lent on the property.

Using a broker is a big plus here because they can look at portfolio loans and non portfolio loans to find you the best deal along with the product you are looking for.

Portfolio loans are often kept in a banks "portfolio" because they are not readily marketable to Wall Street investors for one reason or another. Because banks take longer to recoup they capital with Portfolio Loans, this type of loans often carry higher interest rates than "cookie cutter" loans.



GET IT, GOT IT, GOOD.  and Yeehaw.

KKR is going to supersize our BigMac, any day now.
 

Man darf ja mal träumen.
Ich glaube ja selbst nicht dran,
Volumen ist viel zu niedrig,
aber nach all den Jahren stellt sich auch eine
gewisse Müdigkeit ein.

Ich will endlich ein Ende, habe keine Lust mehr.
Und wie man an den Foren sieht bin ich nicht allein.  

Die Frage ist doch, wie Du "Ende" definierst. Meinst Du damit einen Kauf/Merger, oder meinst Du damit einen bestimmten Share-Preis? M.E. wird die ganze Geschichte erst nach einem Aufkauf so richtig interessant. Insofern rechne ich nach wie vor mit einem sehr mittelfristigen Engagement, es sei denn, es würde ein Hype entstehen und der Kurs schlägt Kapriolen. Dann wäre für mich zumindest ein Teilverkauf überlegenswert.  

Da ist von jedem was dabei.
Mit Ende meinte ich das mal was passiert.
Die letzte Zeit war ja sehr öde.
Nur angiften in fast allen Threads.
Und das muss ich nicht mehr haben.  

"Time will show

...SOON !
bezieht sich ausschließlich auf die Demaskierung eines "armen Kerlchens"!
Wer seine Meute nicht mehr aufklärend im Zaum halten kann...
...und großspurige Erklärungen hinsichtlich der ESCROWS in Verbindung mit den PIERS abgibt, wird erst dann zum Oberlehrer, wenn er seinen Schülern 2+2=4 unbedingt beibringen möchte und sich deshalb auf derselben Stufe wie Archimedes wähnt ...und daraufhin erwartet, von seinen Schülern hochgejubelt zu werden!
...bis diese (relativ rasch) draufkommen, dass auch 2*2=4.

LG ID_pb"

Quelle: http://www.ariva.de/forum/Der-ESCROW-Thread-494496?page=38#jumppos963

p.s. Könnte das freundlicherweise mal jemand "übersetzen"...? ;-)

 

Ist doch ganz klar.
Eine echt treffende Selbstbeschreibung des Herrn Selbstdarsteller Generaldirektor a.D.

Bis auf das der letzte Absatz wahrscheinlich nie eintritt.  

...Du kommst schon noch zu Deinem Geld!
Ganz sicher!

Der hat zuviel Milka im Affenkäfig bekommen. Versuche es mal mit Bananen.  

nach all den Jahren wünschen wir uns ein WMIH -Happy -End !
Wir alle sind müde und etwas angeschlagen...

Heute haben wir endlich die  2,20 $ geknackt...
Und freuen uns wie kleine Kinder :-)
Zumindest ich !

Die Escrows sehe ich als Platzhalter an ...
Sollten irgendwann in einigen Jahren ein paar
Brotkrümel für uns abfallen ...
Freue ich mich um so mehr :-)

Der WMIH - Kurs wurde meiner Meinung nach kontrolliert...
Und heute freigegeben !

Vielleicht dürfen in naher Zukunft ,
mit positiven NEW´s rechnen ;-)

LG :-)


 

alles im grünen Bereich :-)

LG :-)  

Schön, dass Du wieder da bist...!
By the way: Hast Du mitbekommen, was in den letzten Wochen bei Ihookup (Ex-Titan Iron Ore) "abgegangen" ist? Kann mich noch gut daran erinnern, wie Du die Leute (vergeblich) gewarnt hast (auf Grund des ominösen CEO's).
Jetzt ist es bei einigen offenbar sogar so, dass die Transaktionskosten (!) höher wären als der Verkaufserlös. Trotzdem bleibst Du natürlich ein "böser Basher", das versteht sich von selbst, grins... ;-)  

 

And Good Night @all :-)  

"WMI Holdings Corp. (OTC: WMIH) ("WMI Holdings" or the "Company") today announced that its Board of Directors has scheduled the Company's annual meeting of shareholders for 2:00 p.m., Eastern Time, April 28, 2015, at the offices of Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld LLP..."

Scherz beiseite: Ist auf jeden Fall ungewöhnlich, dass die HV so deutlich vorgezogen wird... ;-)
 

HV deutlich vorgezogen...

Langsam wird es spannend :-)  

Meinste nicht, genau anders herum wird ein Schuh draus? Vermutlich ist von der PR etwas durchgesickert, was Spekulanten auf den Plan gerufen hat. Warum sollte man bei so lächerlichen Umsätzen den "Kurs loslassen", wenn er denn überhaupt "festgehalten" wurde...? Ich habe es nicht mehr parat, aber war der Umsatz gestern nicht sogar höher als heute...?  

Du vertrittst Deine Meinung...

Und ich meine :-)

Leben und leben lassen !!!

VG  

Ist ja auch o.k., ich verstehe es nur nicht. Schließlich wurden über 2/3 des heutigen Umsatzes zum Täglich-grüßt-das-Murmeltier-Kurs von 2,20 $ gemacht. Das hieße ja, dass die MM's nicht in der Lage wären, läppische 150.000 Shares in "homöopathischen  Dosierungen" zu "halten". Leuchtet mir nicht ein.
Ob der PR bin ich aber dennoch vorsichtig optimistisch. Ich hoffe, dass Willy endlich aus dem Quark kommt und sein Ziel nicht ist, eine weitere HV zu "überleben"... ;-)  

Wmi Holdings Corp. Files SEC Form SC 13G, Statement of Acquisition of Beneficial Ownership By Individuals [Amend] (Feb. 17, 2015)


http://insurancenewsnet.com/oarticle/2015/02/25/....html#.VO68o3xfaSo  

...überbordendes Interesse sieht anders aus. Bislang "tote Hose" an den deutschen Handelsplätzen... :-(  

der gegenwärtige Kursanstieg stimmt zwar optimistisch, aber ich sehe darin (noch) nichts Nachhaltiges. Ohne die entsprechenden News bleibt das nur ein Strohfeuer.

Hatten wir doch alles schon...;)

P.S.:  Wir sollten auch nicht allzu viel in den vorgezogenen HV-Termin hinein interpretieren. Das weckt wieder nur eine viel zu hohe Erwartungshaltung!