Palantir mit Börsengang
Wie gesagt solange keine konkrete Zahlen vorliegen ist dieses Papier für mich stark spekulativ. Bin gespannt wohin die Reise geht.
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4387910-palantir-see-for
Außerdem spielt gerade so viel Fantasie an den Börsen mit, dass es keine Ausnahme wäre, sehr hohe KGVs und KUVs als fair zu beurteilen, da es einfach vom Markt bezahlt wird.
Und wer einmal den Service nutzt, der bleibt dabei, wie SAP etc. Vor allem aber die Regierung, schau dir doch bspw die Rüstung an, das ist beständig
Find das ist eine absolut geile Chance, aber eben auch riskant, dafür liebe ich die Börse ..
Die Zahlen heute sollten normalerweise gut ausfallen, würde kein gutes Bild machen wenn man beim ersten Quartalsbericht gleich eine Enttäuschung abliefert. Denke daher dass der Ausblick eher konservativ angelegt war.
Insgesamt bringt Palantir mMn alle Zutaten mit um zur absoluten Hype-Aktie zu werden: Gute Story die den Zeitgeist trifft, charismatische Konzernführung und auch die Zahlen scheinen sich in die richtige Richtung zu entwickeln. Durch die Direktplatzierung ist das Unternehmen der breiten Öffentlichkeit außerdem nach wie vor relativ unbekannt, was sich aber schnell ändern und damit zu absolut verrückten Bewertungen führen kann (siehe Snowflake oder Tesla zb). Halte es daher für eher unwahrscheinlich hier nochmal einstellige Kurse zu sehen.
Bin jedenfalls gespannt auf die Zahlen, dann wissen wir mehr!
LG Bertl
Was mich etwas ratlos zurücklässt sind diese beiden Sätze:
"We incurred a loss from operations of $847.8 million, which includes $847.0 million in stock-based compensation following our recent direct listing.
Our income from operations was $73.1 million when adjusting for $847.0 million in stock-based compensation, $20.2 million in related employer payroll taxes, and $53.7 million in expenses related to the listing."
Für mich sieht das nicht so aus als wäre diese gewaltige "stock-based compensation" lediglich ein Einmaleffekt und leider steht dazu auch im Ausblick nichts mehr -> Meinungen?
...outlook cheers investors
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/...ompany-11605216662?siteid=yhoof2
Company raises full-year outlook as pandemic, new contracts boost business
Palantir Technologies, which recently moved its headquarters from Silicon Valley to Denver, Colo. (shown here), reported earnings for the first time as a public company on Thursday. Palantir Technologies Inc.’s business is increasing steadily, helped by more government and corporate contracts in part because of the coronavirus pandemic, it said as it reported earnings Thursday for the first time since going public.
The data-analytics company posted a quarterly loss of nearly $900 million that was mostly because of stock-based compensation. The tone of its first earnings call was upbeat and the company raised its full-year revenue outlook to a range of $1.07 billion to $1.072 billion, up 44% year over year.
The pandemic has “created enormous opportunities for us,” said Shyam Sankar, Palantir’s chief operating officer, on the company’s earnings call. The company is helping the government track clinical data and has been tapped to help with vaccine distribution, too. Besides the coronavirus, though, Sankar said he foresees a “large, systemic transformation in health care” that could benefit Palantir. Though the company’s shares fell sharply at the beginning of the extended session, they gained about 2% after closing the regular session down 8.7% to $14.54. Before Thursday, the data-analytics company’s stock had risen nearly 60% since it started trading at $10 on Sept. 30.
The company reported a third-quarter net loss of $853.3 million, or 94 cents a share, compared with a loss of $144.1 million, or 24 cents a share, in the year-ago period. Its adjusted loss was $73 million, adjusted for $847 million in stock-based compensation. Palantir brought in revenue of $289 million, a 52% increase from revenue of $191 million in the third quarter last year.
Analysts surveyed by FactSet on average had expected the company to post earnings of 2 cents a share on revenue of $279.4 million.
The company touted new contracts it secured in the third quarter, including one for $91 million with the U.S. Army, $36 million with the National Institutes of Health and a $300 million renewal with an aerospace customer it did not name. In its filing, Palantir said that while the U.S. government remains a “primary focus” of its business — including for coronavirus research and response — it is seeing “significant momentum” in business with the commercial sector, too.
Palantir’s software offerings range from helping governments with surveillance and warfare to enabling corporations track manufacturing processes. Its work with the government, especially Immigration and Customs Enforcement and the Department of Homeland Security, has been controversial. After sustained protests by immigration activists at the company’s Palo Alto, Calif, office, it moved its headquarters to Denver, Colo. Chief Executive Alex Karp said in a letter included with the company’s filing in August for a direct listing that “we seem to share fewer and fewer of the technology sector’s values and commitments.”
Mal abgesehen von den hohen Einmaleffekten liest sich das doch sehr gut. Ich werde die Aktie weiter halten.