Chance auf mehrer 100% Gewinn??

deswegen,gehe ich davon aus,das wir die 1euro erreichen,

und  dieses nachricht von kongo scheint ein fake zu sein!

sonst wären wir nie so dick in plus  da drüben.

eher in minus.....  

in Kanada schon jetzt ein Umsatz von 2,6 Mio Shares. Das ist mehr, als die gesamte letzte Woche zusammen. Wir werden hier noch viel Freude haben. Die anderen News in letzter Zeit waren doch alle positiv.  

bin von dieser Aktie überzeugt und seit einigen Wochen investiert.
So kann es weiter gehen.
Wer weiß, zu welchen Kursen es hier nochmal kommen wird...!

Gruß Aktienator  

diese sache nicht in kongo?

wäre katanga paar euro wert!

heute wollte ich nochmal nachlegen,

aber wo ich die meldung von kongo gesehen habe,

dachte ich warte mal lieber und jetzt ist das ding 15prozent im plus

seit heute mittag nochmals in plus!

ich kann mir in den aa beissen........

mann konnte welche noch zu 0,71 nachlegen!  

Da hat aber jemand ordentlich zugelangt.
 

das war bestimmt kein kleinanleger!

ein euro kann diese woche kommen.......

der volumen zeigt es deutlich an  

ich halte schon seit 0.30 und bin eher long investiert!! Ich denke wenn die angespannte Lage sich im Kongo bessert, sind hier Kurse von 0.80 cent Geschichte jeder kann sich dann selbst ausmahlen wie weit es dann hochgehen wird. Ein paar Euro werden dann schon drin sein. Außerdem werden dann eventuell Aktien wieder zurückgekauft.

Klar sind Kurse von 10 Euro Geschichte schaut man sich die Anzahl der Aktien an, dennoch so um die 3 bis 4 euro bei guter Lage im Kongo und weiterhin solchen super Aussichten für die Zukunft kann es hier schnell hoch gehen. Der Kupferpreis spielt auch sehr gut mit.

Bin sehr positiv eingestimmt für die Woche

MfG
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videomart   23.03.10 20:48 #1219  wo siehst du den katanga dann den bei 3cad oder was?  

Warum nicht 3 Euro???  

EBemba
4/12/2010 1:10:03 PM
   
"Interesting. My DD comments, posted Feb 21, suggest that the property value is much higher than currently indicated. KAT has been under new ownership for less than a year so its full potential is just starting to be revealed. The ore body has not been fully investigated or quantified. I expect the numbers will be jaw dropping as the Katanga Mining group of mines are brought into proper operating condition and examined with systematic and modern methods. The price increase is just starting in my view. Only time will tell and it is important to do your own DD. Today is a great day.....

My Feb 21 posting, reprinted for reference: $2? $6? $10? $15 $20 I like ALL these prices!!!

Posted by: EBemba on: 2/21/2010 11:58:41 PM
.... KAT is NOW a much stronger company than when SP $28. KAT reborn is an amalgamation of 4 mines, with an obvious increase in ore reserves. It is under excellent new management, well capitalized and in the process of quadrupling its output. Hmm, 4 times as many shares, more than 4 times the production, sounds like old SP isn’t so out to lunch. Info is pointing up ... and I am not the only one who thinks so (see earlier blog reference) “Top Canadian Stocks with Highest Upside Potential as of Feb 17, 2010, calculated as the difference between current price and Wall Street analysts' average target price. Company (Ticker) Potential Upside 1 Crew Gold Corporation (TSE:CRU) 8105.1% 2 Tethys Petroleum Limited (TSE:TPL) 6935.4% 3 KATanga Mining Ltd. (TSE:KAT) 2294.4% (backcalc this to a target price of $15 to $16) (see article for rest of list ....) http://www.nasd100.com/2010/02/...de-potential-as-of-feb-17-2010.html
I am long on this one and staying that way. Ten to Fifteen times is a good call given the caliber of this ore body and the infrastructure repair that is already underway.
E Bemba --"

http://www.stockhouse.com/Bullboards/...6454&l=0&pd=2&r=0  

interessanter beitrag!

mal gucken was heute wird?

diese woche ein euro auf jedenfall......

zürücklehnen und geniessen.

ende des jahres stehen wir bei 3euro lol!  

....Aktien werden wir die 3€ wohl nicht so schnell sehen, zumindest nicht Ende des Jahres. Auch unter der Berücksichtigung, dass seit der gigantischen Verwässerung ein paar Assets dazu gekommen sind. Die Produktion wird wohl lt. Plan auch erst 2013/2014 Ihren vorläufigen Höhepunkt erreichen.

Meine Meinung............!Hätte als Investierter natürlich nichts dagegen, wenn ich mit meiner Meinung falsch liege und wir Ende 2010 bei 3€ stehen :-)  

http://www.cnxmarketlink.com/en/releases/archive/...010/12/c9656.html  

13.04. - 16:31

Rating-Update:

Zürich (aktiencheck.de AG) - Die Analysten der UBS stufen die Aktie von Katanga Mining (ISIN BMG5221G1096/ WKN A0JKW3) weiterhin mit dem Rating "neutral" ein. Das Kursziel werde von 0,80 CAD (Kanadischer Dollar) auf 1,15 CAD erhöht. (13.04.2010/ac/a/u)

http://analysen.finanztreff.de/...3,seite,kurse,sektion,analysen.html  

Publishing Date: 09 Apr 2010 11:08am GMT

http://www.mining-journal.com/...o-accelerate-congo-copper-production  

Kupferpreis manipuliert werden kann/ oder manipuliert wird. Ist in einigermaßen verständlichem Englisch.
Viel Spaß damit ;)

For those who are interested behind...

The Copper King: An Empire built on manipulation

The commodities  market has grown in importance since the 1990s, with more investors, traders and merchants buying futures, hedging positions, speculating  and generally getting the most out of the complex financial instruments that make up the commodities market. With all the activity, people dependent on futures to remove risk have raised concerns over large speculators manipulating the markets. In this article we'll look to the past for one of the biggest cases of market manipulation in commodities and what it meant to the future of futures.

The 5%
There is still a sense of mystery surrounding Yasuo Hamanaka, a.k.a. Mr. Copper, and the magnitude of his losses with the Japanese trading company Sumitomo. From his perch at the head of Sumitomo's metal-trading division, Hamanaka controlled 5% of the world's copper supply. This sounds like a small amount, since 95% was being held in other hands. Copper, however, is an illiquid commodity that cannot be easily transferred around the world to meet shortages. For example, a rise in copper prices due to a shortage in the U.S. will not be immediately canceled out by shipments from countries with an excess of copper. This is because moving copper from storage to delivery to storage costs money, and those costs can cancel out the price differences. The challenges in shuffling copper around the world and the fact that even the biggest players only hold a small percentage of the market made Hamanaka's 5% very significant. (Learn how to add copper and other precious metals to your portfolio in An Introduction To Sector Funds.)

The Set-Up
Sumitomo owned large amounts of physical copper, copper sitting in warehouses and factories, as well as holding numerous futures contracts. Hamanaka used Sumitomo's size and large cash reserves to both corner and squeeze the market via the London Metal Exchange (LME). As the world's biggest metal exchange, the LME copper price essentially dictated the world copper price. Hamanaka kept this price artificially high for nearly a decade leading up to 1995, thus getting premium profits on the sale of Sumitomo's physical assets.

Beyond the sale of its copper, Sumitomo benefited in the form of commission on other copper transactions it handled, because the commissions are calculated as a percentage of the value of the commodity being sold, delivered, etc. The artificially high price netted the company larger commissions on all of its copper transactions. (For a deeper understanding of futures contracts, check out Futures Fundamentals: How The Market Works.)

Smashing The Shorts
Hamanaka's manipulation was common knowledge among many speculators and hedge funds, and that he was long in both physical holdings and futures in copper. Whenever someone tried to short Hamanaka, however, he kept pouring cash into his positions, outlasting the shorts simply by having deeper pockets. Hamanaka's long cash positions forced anyone shorting copper to deliver the goods or close out their position at a premium.

He was helped greatly by the fact that, unlike the U.S., the LME had no mandatory position reporting and no statistics showing open interest. Basically, traders knew the price was too high, but they had no exact figures on how much Hamanaka controlled and how much money he had in reserve. In the end, most cut their losses and let Hamanaka have his way. (Read more about open interest in Discovering Open Interest - Part 1 and Part 2.)

Mr. Copper's Fall
Nothing lasts forever, and it was no different for Hamanaka's corner on the copper market. The market conditions changed in 1995, in no small part thanks to the resurgence of mining in China. The price of copper was already significantly higher than it should have been, but an increase in the supply put more pressure on the market for a correction. Sumitomo had made good money on its manipulation, but they were left in a bind because it still was long on copper when it was heading for a big drop.

Worse yet, shortening its position - that is, hedging with shorts - would simply make its significant long positions lose money faster, as it would be playing against itself. While Hamanaka was struggling over how to get out with most of the ill-gotten gains intact, the LME and Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) began looking into the worldwide copper-market manipulation. (Learn how currency traders make use of the CFTC's Commitments of Traders report in Using COT Report To Forecast FX Movements.)

Denial
Sumitomo responded to the probe by "transferring" Hamanaka out of his trading post. The removal of Mr. Copper was enough to bring the shorts on in earnest. Copper plunged, and, Sumitomo announced that it had lost over $1.8 billion and the losses could go as high as $5 billion, as the long positions were settled in a poor market. They also claimed Hamanaka was a rogue trader and his actions were completely unknown to management. Hamanaka was charged with forging his supervisor's signatures on a form and was convicted. (Learn about other financial misdeeds in The Biggest Stock Scams Of All Time.)

Sumitomo's reputation was tarnished because many people believed that the company couldn't have been ignorant of Hamanaka's hold on the copper market, especially as they profited from it for years. Traders argued that Sumitomo must have known, as it funneled more money to Hamanaka every time speculators tried to shake his price.

Fallout
Sumitomo responded to the allegations by implicating JPMorgan Chase and Merrill Lynch. Sumitomo blamed the two banks for keeping the scheme going by granting loans to Hamanaka through structures like futures derivatives. All of the corporations entered litigation with one another and all were found guilty to some extent - a fact that hurt Morgan's case on a similar charge related to the Enron scandal and the energy-trading business Mahonia Ltd. Hamanaka, for his part, served the sentence without comment. (Read more about the current implications of the Enron scandal in What Enron Taught Us About Retirement Plans.)

Manipulation Today
Since the copper-market manipulation, new protocols have been added to the LME to prevent a similar cornering of the market. It is nearly impossible for long-term manipulation like Hamanaka's to occur in today's market, as there are more players and much more volatility with longs and shorts facing off on a daily basis with real-time price quotes flashing across the battleground. In fact, the commodities market faces the opposite problem, short-term price spikes brought about by speculators with deep pockets. The bizarre two-day spike in the price of cotton in March, 2008, is an example of this problem. (Learn more about cotton and similar commodities in Commodities That Move The Markets.)

As the kinks are being worked out of the new electronic commodities exchange, Intercontinental Exchange (ICE), many loopholes have been opened up. The use of swaps and synthetic derivatives by hedge funds and institutional buyers wanting to exceed CFTC and exchange limits has made spotting commodities manipulation harder. Unfortunately, this means that futures have lost some of their value as a hedge for merchants against market risk and price fluctuation. Investors and merchants can only hope that the ICE will continue to improve and make market manipulation in the commodities truly a thing of the past.

Read about other rogue traders in Trading's 6 Biggest Losers.

by Andrew Beattie (Contact Author | Biography)

Andrew Beattie is a managing editor and contributor at Investopedia.com.  

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MfG

wow, sollte man jetzt so langsam Kasse machen ???

 

Oder was meint Ihr?

Zu den 2 Mrd Aktien ý es gibt ja noch die Möglichkeit wieder zurückzukaufen, dann werden es doch auch wieder weniger, oder wie?

Kann mir das mal einer erklären?

Danke

 

MfG

yeah.

1 euro 1 euro komm doch büdde ;) bald haben wir Ihn

... es bleibt die grüne Woche sehr schön ;)

MfG
Bio

Mit dem Zurückkaufen ist so eine Sache.....Glencore hat mit über 70% den größten Anteil an den ausgegebenen Aktien. Dementsprechend dürfte der Freefloat relativ gering ausfallen und ich kann mir schlecht vorstellen, dass Glencore auch nur ein Stück abgeben wird. Die werden sich noch dumm und dämlich an KAT verdienen und melken, melken, melken.....

Kasse machen? Nö...meine 2008er bleiben schön liegen.....mindestens bis 2013 :-)


Gruß Flocke  

ja die Steuerfreiheit sollte man auskosten *g*

wusste nicht, dass es 70% Anteile sind. Aber die verdienen sich gerade schon dumm und dämlich :)

Grüße

-hier steht mehr zu Glencores Anteilen an KAT:

http://www.dowjones.de/site/2010/03/...p-stake-in-katanga-to-744.html


-lesenswertes über Kobalt (Glencore taucht auch im Artikel auf):

http://www.lettertest.de/publikationen/detail/...re-wird-geboren.html  

bei 0,279, trotzdem halte ich die Teile weiterhin!  

Rating-Update:

Zürich (aktiencheck.de AG) - Die Analysten der UBS stufen die Aktie  von Katanga Mining (ISIN BMG5221G1096/ WKN A0JKW3) weiterhin mit dem  Rating "neutral" ein. Das Kursziel werde von 0,80 CAD (Kanadischer  Dollar) auf 1,15 CAD erhöht. (13.04.2010/ac/a/u)

Offenlegung von möglichen Interessenskonflikten: Mögliche  Interessenskonflikte können Sie auf der Site des Erstellers/ der Quelle  der Analyse einsehen.

Diese Analysten hinken dem Kurs hinterher. Wir sind seit heute 17:00 Uhr ständig über 1,25 CAD. Umsatz in Kanada wieder über 2,2 Mio Shares. Ich vermute mal, irgendwann in Kürze kommen massive Gewinnmitnahmen. Bin desshalb am überlegen kurzfristig zu verkaufen und dann günstiger wieder einzusteigen. Aber wann kommt der Knick nach unten, und kommt er überhaupt so massiv, das es sich lohnt jetzt zu verkaufen. Bin desshalb noch am Ringen mit mir. Wie ist euere Meinung dazu ? Immerhin hat sich der Kurs seit Anfang März fast verdoppelt.

 

http://analysen.finanztreff.de/...ker,id,32081483,l,276,s,A0JKW3.html